Hawaii IPTV review: Is it worth the money?

March 4th, 2008

Filed Under Hawaii Resources, Hawaii TV | 21 Comments

There’s something about tv in Hawaii.  It’s the warm aloha of local newscasts, cooking shows, various cable access shows and even the commercials.  Whether you lived in Hawaii or visited on vacation, you find when you’re away, you yearn for the local flair.  Enter Hawaii IPTV.  I was so excited when I saw this because if there’s one thing I miss when I’m not in the islands, it’s watching Guy Hagi tell me the weather or Sam Choy tell me what local cuisine I can whip up.  At Christmas time, I got $250 as a gift from my mother in law and saw this as a perfect opportunity to bite the bullet and put it toward subscribing to Hawaii IPTV for a year.  (The start up cost including S&H is $344.99)

I was very glad to see they changed the set top box to a putty color rather than that hideous big bird yellow they had previously.  We were so excited when it finally arrived.  Immediately apparent is some of the broadband technology on which it runs on is outdated which the company needs to address.  Now time to get to the good stuff, we tuned in to the “live” programming which is just the newscasts from KGMB, KHNL and KFVE.  It’s implied you can watch the newscasts live from your time zone but we’ve yet to ever see one live.  Over the past week, we are only able to see KGMB and none of the other two newscasts work for ANY of the days, only color bars and a delightful piercing audio.  I emailed them a few days ago about it and have yet to hear back.  I mean, KGMB is who we watch anyway but that’s not the point, we’re paying for all of the newscasts to be available.

Basically, in the course of a month you could watch every single program on there as nothing seems to be added since we’ve had it.  We were especially excited to watch Sam Choy’s Kitchen cooking show and while there are probably 40+ shows, they’re all 11+ years old and the audio is bad to boot!  The audio is bad on a lot of the shows.  You have to do a lot of finagling with the audio on the remote that comes with it and your tv remote to get it to the point where its not completely grating.  Some shows have a decent amounts of episodes like Sam Choy’s Kitchen and then you get Eh, U Da Kine, Ah? with Tony Solis and there are only 2 episodes and the audio is so bad you can barely hear what’s being said.  I have to say that had the total cost been the bulk of my own money, I would be highly disappointed.  Well, any amount, I’m still highly disappointed.  The biggest reason I went ahead with it is the hint that they are negotiating to possibly get UH Sports for this year.  If we could see Warrior Football, that would be a major plus but if that doesn’t happen, I have to wonder if this is worth keeping once the subscription is up.

Bottom line:  Good idea, poor execution.  I think the problems this system has are VERY fixable if the company wants to do so and build a good reputation.  If the menu stays the same throughout the year with no new licensing agreements and added shows, people who are already subscribers are going to drop like flies.  It’d be like deciding if you want to pay a monthly fee for newscasts which is nice but apparently not so much at this point in time for the KHNL and KFVE newscast viewers.


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  1. UpIrons on March 4, 2008 10:56 am

    I hate the fact that their set top box doesn’t support WPA encryption for your wi-fi connection. This means that in order to use it via wi-fi you’re going to have to downgrade your wi-fi router, and all of your wireless devices, to use WEP. If you’re running WEP still then fine, but if you want to use WPA and actually use an encryption that has not yet been broken by hackers then you are kind of screwed. Of course, another solution for this would be to plug it in via ethernet, but that defeats the purpose of the wireless built-in!

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  3. Chris Dey on August 19, 2008 9:52 pm

    Aloha!

    Thanks to everyone for providing us feedback on the service. I hope that you’ve seen on going improvements as the technology continues to evolve. Our technology provider, Neulion Inc., has been in the news quite a bit lately including a feature in the Wall Street Journal.

    We’ve received a lot of positive response on the Hawaii IPTV service. Feedback has been particularly good on the live programs like the multiple KGMB, KHNL and KFVE newscasts along with shows like the Andy Bumatai Show.

    On a related note, we announced today that Hawaii IPTV and KFVE ‘The Home Team’ have entered into a multi year contract to broadcast UH sports. I know that many of you have been hoping for this contract to come through…it goes without saying that we have. We’ve been working on it for nearly three years.

    Thanks for tuning in.

    Aloha,
    Chris & Kimberly Dey

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  5. Pele on August 20, 2008 10:15 pm

    Mahalo Chris and Kimberly, I did blog about this addition in another more current post so we are very happy to see the addition of many UH Sports to the line up. (I’m hoping they’ll be available more than just the one day, that would be great!) Also being able to watch the Merrie Monarch Festival will be a definite plus!

    While those are great additions, the audio still has not been addressed/improved and many of the shows remain outdated. We’ve watched everything available to us at this point and are anxious for updated programming. We see improvements and are hopeful additional programming will continue to be added!

    Mahalo!

  6. UpIrons on August 20, 2008 10:59 pm

    The UH sports is great news. I am looking forward to being able to watch the warriors on it!

    My only real issue with the NeuLion box is that it doesn’t support WPA in the wifi settings. It seems to me that they could fix this with a software update. Unfortunatley, if you go to their support page, it tells you to register in order to open a ticket. However, clicking on their register link tells you that you aren’t authorized to view that page. So essentially you aren’t able to register, nor open a ticket. So much for getting a firmware update on the IPTV hardware.

    I know that’s no fault of Hawaii IPTV but if you guys are still listening, maybe you can get NeuLion to consider supporting WPA on the wifi connection. WEP is outdated now and actually is borderline dangerous for people to use on their home wifi networks and most home routers don’t allow a mix of WPA and WEP on the same router, which means that ALL of the wifi devices in the home must use the minimum encryption level (WEP) thanks to the NeuLion IPTV box not supporting more modern encryption.

  7. Pele on August 21, 2008 3:20 pm

    That’s a great point. I hope this is something that can be fixed by NeuLion ASAP!

  8. hekela on August 25, 2008 1:25 pm

    this is retarded. if you want to watch hawaii tv so bad you are probably (a) from hawaii or (b) have friends/family in hawaii. in either case you would know someone that had a tv set up in hawaii… the monthly fee for this hawaii iptv is ridiculous. i’m from hawaii and have lived on the mainland for 6 years and got my dad a slingbox (which he gladly set up) and it literally broadcasts whatever shows are on LIVE. no delay and none of this certain show stuff. i suggest that anyone looking to get a hawaii iptv invest in a slingbox… much more realistic.

  9. Pele on August 25, 2008 1:40 pm

    Thanks for bringing this to people’s attention Hekela. The Slingbox is *assuming* you have someone in Hawaii that would be willing to set up a Slingbox for you. I’m sure there are plenty of subscribers who do not have people in Hawaii to do this. There are a lot of visitors who get hooked from day one and have no way to make that technology work for them other than IPTV right now. (Also, unless the person in Hawaii pays Oceanic Cable’s ridiculous price for a UH Sports package, even they cannot match the new UH sports package.)

    For those who are able to have someone in Hawaii do this for you, you can check out Slingbox technology here: http://www.slingmedia.com/go/slingbox

  10. Chris Dey on August 27, 2008 12:22 am

    Pele: would you mind emailing us to let us know what programs you are having audio trouble with. Other than some of the very old (20+ years) classic programming where there may be simply bad audio on the master copy, I haven’t been able to identify programs with other audio problems. Mahalo.

    Also, an important note and difference between Slingbox and Hawaii IPTV other than those pointed out by Pele, is that you need to watch Slingbox on your computer (a ‘lean in’ experience). Hawaii IPTV allows you to watch tv on your….tv (a ‘lean out’ experience)…like you would normally do…so you can enjoy UH sports, concerts etc on your big screen anywhere in the world.

    I was also wondering if you can record programs on your Slingbox or do you only have the choice of watching them live. If you can record how many can you record at any one time. All of the programs on Hawaii IPTV are archived so you can watch them when you want, how you want. Which with the time difference to the mainland is a nice feature/option.

    Aloha,
    Chris Dey

  11. MrBeachBum on August 27, 2008 8:50 am

    Slingbox doesn’t record but it can “sling” DVR recorded programs just like the live TV – however you would only be able to watch shows that your friend/relative in Hawaii records unless you are constantly bugging them to record stuff for you. IPTV has great potential, especially with UH sports – I am anxious to see how the execution of that is.

    And I agree that the wifi needs a major upgrade. Is there new firmware planned for the box anytime soon? Any way to get NeuLion to improve that so it can support WPA?

  12. Chris Dey on August 27, 2008 11:23 pm

    Here’s a link to Neulion for more information about our technology partner. http://www.neulion.com/

  13. MrBeachBum on August 28, 2008 6:53 am

    Yes I have been to their site many times and have even sent them direct emails with questions about their plans for wifi updates. No response from them at all.

  14. Pele on August 28, 2008 7:00 am

    Chris, I will get you a list when I am back from vacation in a few weeks. I can tell you from memory that many Sam Choy shows are constantly needing tweaking to get the right level (you can’t keep each episode on the same level as it will get muffled) and both episodes of Eh, U Da Kine Eh? are almost unwatchable the audio is so bad. I sat through the one with Augie T because I wanted to hear the interview but the 2nd show was like nails on a chalkboard so I couldn’t even watch it.

    I have received several emails that Neulion’s support is almost non-existent and I have to agree with others that their lack of proper encryption is a big turn off.

    Thanks for continuing to check in. This is very encouraging.

  15. Chris Dey on September 4, 2008 11:52 pm

    Just launched our online web player as well for those that are interested here’s the preview: http://www.TVfromHawaii.TV.

    Aloha,
    Chris

  16. Zig Hawaii on September 21, 2008 1:22 am

    I got this service to watch UH sports. I’ve had numerous problems. Tonight, instead of the volleyball game, I’m seeing NBC programming — that horrible Chuck show.

  17. Stan Dardef on December 25, 2008 12:35 am

    As usual the internet is changing fast. Major networks, AMC, PBS and others are starting to provide programming via the web. As Chris Dey said, it’s a different experience from watching TV.

    But Apple TV and Netflix are starting to change that, too. With better compression and faster internet connections, IPTV might have a difficult time competing against these other sources which provide quality contemporary programming and are either free or available at very low cost.

  18. Steven O'Shea on April 23, 2009 3:18 pm

    I was wondering how many archived UH football games are there with the online web player?

  19. Anele on April 23, 2009 5:31 pm

    I’m not sure since I don’t have the web player but you can contact them directly at the following link:

    http://www.tvfromhawaii.com/contact.htm

    Mahalo for visiting!

  20. Steve S on May 27, 2010 9:59 pm

    Bring back Hawaii IPTV!
    I miss my morning fix of
    last nights KGMB news!

  21. greg winkfield on November 4, 2010 10:20 pm

    bring bsck hawaii iptv i live in indep. mo a large pacific islander comm, we miss all the programming will you bring it back soon

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